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Growing up in Saudi Arabia as a Pakistani, who now resides in Canada, Eiynah brings a global perspective to discussions about religion, politics, culture & sexuality...through the lens of a progressive ex-muslim immigrant. This podcast often focuses on unpacking various forms of extremism, particularly types that are less overt and masquerading as ‘intellectual’.

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Entering the arena of US ElectionTakes™ now that I’ve finally gotten over the initial shock. There are of course multiple lenses to look at the results through and many ways to interpret what went wrong. I’ve seen people suggest the main factors are racism/sexism… while others say the main issue was The Dems’ failure to speak to financial pain, currently felt across the nation. I say…why not both?These things are often connected - throughout history we’ve seen fascism rise in times of economic woes. — Subscribe via Patreon.com/nicemangos to access the extended episode. In the extended version we discuss Bari Weiss, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins and Andrew Sullivan comes up too. — Links: YouGov/IMEU poll mentioned in the episode: https://x.com/prem_thakker/status/1823907019780128772?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Kamala on The View: https://x.com/halalflow/status/1854496962294214687?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Dawkins’ Tweet: https://x.com/richarddawkins/status/1854527379869175843?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Judge clarifies that yes Trump was found to have R*ped Jean Carroll https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/ Listen To The Jeffrey Epstein Tapes: ‘I Was Donald Trump’s Closest Friend’ https://www.thedailybeast.com/listen-to-the-jeffrey-epstein-tapes-i-was-donald-trumps-closest-friend/ Trump uses ‘Palestinian’ as a slur: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-criticized-palestinian-insult-debate-with-biden-2024-06-28/ Former White House chief of staff John Kelly says Trump fits the definition of ‘fascist’ https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/john-kelly-says-donald-trump-meets-definition-fascist-rcna176706 Bari Weiss claiming The Dems ran on ‘gender fluidity’ https://x.com/thefp/status/1854609233322344487?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Here’s an episode discussing some recent (incredibly bleak) current events, as well as a closer look at how things are being framed in western media to normalize/minimize the horrors of Israel’s actions. We zoom in on a particular Fox News segment, with one Douglas Murray, who is currently living out his most g3nocidal fantasties, hanging with the Israeli Diaper Forces. Subscribe via patreon.com/nicemangos to access the extended episode _____ Links: Douglas Murray’s Fox News clip, featured in this episode: https://x.com/breeesq/status/1845204895353405459?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Douglas Murray crying about census results: https://x.com/nicemangos/status/968252156385120256?s=61&t= Former Deputy Head of Israel’s National Security Council is calling on all IDF soldiers and officers to defy orders and not carry out war crimes in Northern Gaza. https://x.com/benzionsanders/status/1848667535207526587?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Ethnic cleansing conference titled ‘Conference to Re-settle Gaza’ organized by Likud https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/edge-gaza-israeli-settlers-want-back-2024-10-21/ BBC question time ‘Has Israel Gone Beyond Self Defense’ https://youtu.be/5I2-ikpaC4Q?si=HClIMmH8NAxLuw3y CNN article that sympathizes with the IDF over the 100s of people they eliminate: https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/middleeast/gaza-war-israeli-soldiers-ptsd-suicide-intl/index.html Howard Jacobson claims that reporting on how many children were killed by Israel is a form of Blood Libel: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/06/tales-of-infanticide-have-stoked-hatred-of-jews-for-centuries-they-echo-still-today https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/rationalizing-the-horrors-of-israels-war-in-gaza Douglas’ g3nocide cosplay https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1848030154485895643?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw The total number of United Nations member states that recognize a Palestinian state is 146 out of 193. https://www.newsweek.com/number-nations-recognize-palestine-statehood-growing-1903643 Murray’s Holocaust revisionism published in the Jewish Chronicle https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/why-must-jews-watch-their-backs-as-london-mobs-cheer-ul2b765s - a publication that recently went through an embarrassing scandal, having to remove a series of articles based on ‘wild fabrications’ as well as having to remove the ‘freelance journalist’ that made it all up. As he had also misrepresented his resume. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/14/crisis-at-jewish-chronicle-as-stories-are-withdrawn#:~:text=The%20world's%20oldest%20Jewish%20newspaper,had%20also%20misrepresented%20his%20résumé. The conversation between Peter Beinart & Ta-Nehisi Coates referenced in this episode https://open.spotify.com/episode/6RbSzXch8D4ZlbVaIfJVw6?si=zT2GJdpyR2CqcfAgFQhUDg

[This is a sample of the recent Premium BONUS episode. Join us on the Premium tiers via Patreon.com/nicemangos to access the full episode.] Here’s a link to the footage of Sinwar’s final moments, as well as someone on Israeli TV immediately recognizing the release of this footage for the tactical error it was. https://x.com/middleeasteye/status/1848557740819681509?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

In this episode, I reflect on the past year of unbelievable horror… the excuses and legitimizing we’ve seen from the media and our politicians, how deeply entrenched tropes of ‘civilized’ vs ‘barbarian’ are. I also take a closer look at Ta-Nehisi Coates’ recent interview on CBS morning as well as his interview with Jon Stewart. If you enjoy this show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos and access extended episodes. —— Links: Ta-Nehisi Coates’ recent interview on CBS https://x.com/cbsmornings/status/1840749848703770679?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Coates’ interview with Jon Stewart: https://youtu.be/d0-y0X51Xtw?si=yXmRVqczuKIAq1kx How Israel's Army Uses Palestinians as Human Shields in Gaza https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-military-human-shields.html On centering supporters over victims of this genocide: Rationalizing the Horrors of Israel’s war in Gaza https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/rationalizing-the-horrors-of-israels-war-in-gaza Widespread, systemic sexual abuse, r*pe and torture of Palestinian detainees: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-29/ty-article/.premium/idf-police-raid-sde-teiman-prison-detain-soldiers-suspected-of-abusing-detainee/00000190-fe2c-d22a-abfe-ff2c10c20000 https://x.com/ha_matar/status/1817885626458337336?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw https://www.972mag.com/sde-teiman-prisoners-lawyer-mahajneh/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/07/29/palestinian-prisoners-israel-jails-abuse/ https://jacobin.com/2024/07/israeli-soldiers-accused-of-rape-and-torture-of-palestinians Right to r*pe rallies break out in Israel: https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/8/13/israeli-protesters-rally-for-the-right-to-rape-prisoners My old Rogan episode where I discussed Jon Stewart a bit: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4JSlLjzkQMDNvy4DlOcmoZ?si=2Khz5EDzSya8aTwyclrJPw The largest cohort of paediatric amputees in history: https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/the-children-who-lost-limbs-in-gaza More women and children were killed in Gaza over the past year than any other conflict over the last two decades: https://time.com/7049499/oct-7-anniversary-israel-hamas-hezbollah-iran-future/ Zionist Columbia professor tweeting that Coates is not above ‘r*ping young women at a music festival’ https://x.com/melnickjeffrey1/status/1845145257593249901?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Additional awful takes about Coates’ criticism of Israel: https://x.com/aymanmsnbc/status/1845293374233846226?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

This is pt 2 of my conversation with Adi Callai, of the Rev & Reve Youtube channel. Adi grew up in Israel, researches counterinsurgency and military philosophy. He recently put out quite a radical, remarkable, well-researched video titled, ‘The Gaza Ghetto Uprising’. In this part of the conversation we discuss topics that have largely been downplayed or ignored by western media, like the use of the Hannibal Directive on Oct 7, as well as the silence of many large leftist content creators, the weaponizing of #metoo and feminist discourse. We also talk about the blatantly eliminationist rhetoric on the ‘Two Nice Jewish Boys podcast’. If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos ——— Links: IDF ordered Hannibal Directive on Oct 7 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-ordered-hannibal-directive-on-october-7-to-prevent-hamas-taking-soldiers-captive/00000190-89a2-d776-a3b1-fdbe45520000 Israeli forces accused of killing their own citizens under the 'Hannibal Directive' during October 7 chaos: “The doctrine, written in 1986 in response to the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers in Lebanon, gave permission for Israeli forces to fire on enemies holding their comrades hostage — even at risk to those hostages. Its authors said the directive did not allow captives to be killed, but critics say that over time an interpretation spread through the military that it was better to kill comrades than to allow their capture.” https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/israel-hannibal-directive-kidnap-hamas-gaza-hostages-idf/104224430 Translation of Giora Eiland’s gen ocidal article https://x.com/pixieofdeath/status/1726267178201362438?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Canada suspends ‘some’ arms exports to Israel https://www.democracynow.org/2024/9/11/headlines/canada_suspends_some_arms_export_licenses_to_israel IDF spokesman says Hamas can’t be destroyed https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-spokesman-says-hamas-cant-be-eliminated-will-remain-in-gaza-if-no-alternative/ Mehdi Hasan vs Benny Morris - Head to Head https://youtu.be/Amz2Sf1JMDE?siXKSqtA1KQrtJFf

Joining me for this episode is Adi Callai, of the Rev & Reve Youtube channel - With an unusual perspective for someone who grew up in Israel. Adi researches counterinsurgency and military philosophy …& recently put out quite a radical, remarkable, well-researched video titled, ‘The Gaza Ghetto Uprising’. In this part of the conversation we talk about topics such as; atrocity propaganda, the weaponization of identity for colonial purposes, pinkwashing, Refaat Al-Areer, the inversion of narratives (like Israel accusing Palestinians of using human shields while using human shields themselves). All this and more. If u enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos ——— Links: The Gaza Ghetto Uprising: https://youtu.be/Pt_1k7nSv1M?si=R0nIvAdNXkQxPBPZ Antisemitism, Weaponized: https://youtu.be/5MVIh6Rnzog?si=k7A6aJ02r_AKn-22 Hen Mazzig admits he was a paid contractor for the government of Israel:https://forward.com/israel/412206/did-this-pro-israel-superstar-work-as-a-secret-agent-on-college-campuses/ Smotrich self-IDs as a fascist homophobe: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-01-16/ty-article/.premium/israels-far-right-finance-minister-im-a-fascist-homophobe-but-i-wont-stone-gays/00000185-b921-de59-a98f-ff7f47c70000 NY Times “investigation” of mass r*pe by Hamas falls apart https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/watch-ny-times-investigation-mass-rape-hamas-falls-apart Israeli media has debunked the ultra-Orthodox group Zaka's gruesome October 7 atrocity stories, but the American press won't do it. https://theintercept.com/2024/02/27/zaka-october-7-israel-hamas-new-york-times/ New York Times Exposé Lacks Evidence to Claim Hamas Weaponized Sexual Violence Oct. 7 https://www.democracynow.org/2024/3/1/nyt_anat_schwartz An investigation into a New York Times story is causing internal chaos at the company https://www.npr.org/2024/03/03/1235606433/an-investigation-into-a-new-york-times-story-is-causing-internal-chaos-at-the-co The unravelling of the New York Times 'Hamas r*pe' story https://www.aljazeera.com/program/the-listening-post/2024/3/2/the-unraveling-of-the-new-york-times-hamas-rape-story The New York Times pulled a high-profile episode of its podcast “The Daily” about sexual violence perpetrated by Hamas on October 7 amid a furious internal debate about the strength of it’s original reporting https://theintercept.com/2024/01/28/new-york-times-daily-podcast-camera/ Israeli soldiers are using Palestinian civilians as human shields in Gaza to enter and clear tunnels and buildings they suspect may have been booby-trapped, a leading Israeli NGO and newspaper have reported. https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/14/israeli-forces-in-gaza-use-civilians-as-human-shields-against-possible-booby-traps Israeli protesters rally for 'the right to r*pe' prisoners https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/8/13/israeli-protesters-rally-for-the-right-to-rape-prisoners

⚠️ Content Warning: discussion of Israel's assault on Gaza Hey folks, Here’s some of what I’ve been feeling lately. I will need to make some changes. If you enjoy the show, pls consider leaving a review and/or supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos [If you’re already a patron of the show this won’t affect you. But just so you know where I’m at.] As always, I’m super thankful to all the wonderful patrons of this show who make this work possible. It’s truly a privilege to have your support.

Joining me for this fun-filled episode of The Aftershow is Entomologist *and* Jordan Peterson/Muppet impressionist, Peter. We discussed a wide range of fascinating topics - from tabletop games & ‘nerd culture’ to air travel with octopuses, Jordan Peterson, The Muppets, Sam Harris, merge-gate, the recent multi-part episode on race ‘science’ & a whole lot more! Access the full episode/series by becoming a patron today via patreon.com/nicemangos Links: Original Salon Article that caused the merge-gate outrage https://www.salon.com/2021/06/05/how-the-new-atheists-merged-with-the-far-right-a-story-of-intellectual-grift-and-abject-surrender/ My first episode responding to those who were defending ‘New Atheism’ during merge-gate https://open.spotify.com/episode/6IQdcBSI6ShQuH5S6sYmi2?si=Inb2aotYSK221JCuZY72_w 2 Part Panel on merge-gate situation: Defending New Atheism, Maybe Just Don’t (pt 1) https://open.spotify.com/episode/6FesH5ZincC0rUfKtYPkad?si=L4Nxbg5iTxyLKSKTTajQiA Defending New Atheism, Maybe Just Don’t (pt 2) https://open.spotify.com/episode/2XIxGXj3IN8iLhU9xa0SPd?si=zlyJK1ztShqBH75WLk331w Twitter thread explaining the timeline of the merge-gate situation: https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1406646731933167619?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Polite Conversations episodes ft. Michael Brooks: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3PIDupohwYl7gzOdzXDHE4?si=pOIufMaSTu2iGr3chQp4yQ Review of Rubin’s Book https://open.spotify.com/episode/6sduCNViMS0uZLeVayYPj7?si=fhjtM6FNTyq0-Gn23sqR_g Recent Polite Conversations race ‘science’ episodes Pt 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1r8AfX2Z15mkgDBr8Q0e8g?si=2wIGL3vxReyzry7vz6-0yA Pt 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/12HQ6bzV3iB0dhGwkgRQ3v?si=AHek0UOLROK6G1vhKJmpGg Pt 3: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3ZRzUS4RBy3qq3zo9Enaly?si=3srh-vtBR72-c_DTvyUp7A

In this part of the panel we discuss several online movements adjacent to race ‘science’ - Pronatalism, the tech right, Effective Altruism, etc. Present-day eugenicist Diana Fleischman trying to define eugenics as broadly as possible https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1385264417869283329?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw My Ex-Mus to TradFash Pipeline series that I mentioned (patreon exclusive) Pt 1- https://www.patreon.com/posts/ex-mus-to-pt-1-106445369?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link Pt 2- https://www.patreon.com/posts/ex-mus-to-pt-2-106501752?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link Pt 3- https://www.patreon.com/posts/ex-mus-to-pt-3-106529773?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link Rightwing Ex Muslim Sarah Haider tries to reassure her right/far-right audience that she supports white people having lots of babies https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1765759777848664346?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw On Effective Altruism: Fraud, Lies, Exploitation and Eugenic Fantasies https://www.truthdig.com/articles/effective-altruism-is-a-welter-of-fraud-lies-exploitation-and-eugenic-fantasies/ America’s premier pronatalists on having ‘tons of kids’ to save the world https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/may/25/american-pronatalists-malcolm-and-simone-collins The articles Kevin mentioned near the end: https://www.science.org/content/article/it-s-toxic-place-how-online-world-white-nationalists-distorts-population-genetics https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-03252-z

My guests for this episode include science ‘influencer’ Mr. @Evopsychgoogle, evolutionary biologist Kevin Bird @thebirdmaniac on Twitter and anthropologist Cathryn Townsend @cathryntownsend On this part of the panel we discuss the panelists’ recent article in Stat News (linked below), on how this type of junk science continues to be legitimized to this day, despite glaring errors in the data. We discuss self-described ‘scientific racist’ Richard Lynn as well as E.O. Wilson, Steven Pinker, Sam Harris, Charles Murray and their contributions to race ‘science’. We also talk more broadly about how the Intellectual Dark Web has played a major role in reviving it in recent years. Links: The Panelists’ article that we discussed in the beginning of the episode: Journals that published Richard Lynn’s racist ‘research’ articles should retract them https://www.statnews.com/2024/06/20/richard-lynn-racist-research-articles-journals-retractions/ My previous episodes with Mr. @evopsychgoogle: Pt 1 - https://open.spotify.com/episode/4jSFhcmT6xNJ4JOwbEkscE?si=JnGZZ36GTNSVYKr0dYz4Fg Pt 2 - https://open.spotify.com/episode/5gvuP3xLyqKSpJgTjf43A3?si=AenT06jVTuGNc-pd6W4BtA My Miniseries on Sam Harris ‘Woking Up’ https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1caIpbHnvDjKu0Ph4DA0Nb?si=DxI59yjtRjuDV7rQSv9cEw&pi=u-kmAFEyuTRNiJ If you’d like to support the show pls subscribe to the YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@politeconversationspodcast —— Other Related articles: Quinn Slobodian article about the Pioneer Fund and The Bell Curve: https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-white-man-unburdened-slobodian-schrader The Tainted Sources of The Bell Curve: https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1994/12/01/the-tainted-sources-of-the-bell-curve/ Free book by William Tucker on The Bell Curve: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-41614-9 Primary research articles debunking Lynn: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S104160801000035X?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1041608009001071?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886909003675?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609001470?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609000634?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886909002475?via%3Dihub https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/tzr8c https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/26vfb https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1041608024000141?via%3Dihub