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Learn to use the sciences of the mind to help you understand what makes you emotionally tick. Two Austin therapists and their world-recognized guest experts break down the research in modern attachment, relational neuroscience and trauma in a challenging but entertaining format to keep you off autopilot and moving towards closer connections. www.therapistuncensored.com

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Learn what the amygdala does and doesn’t do, how it’s related to memory and consciousness from the best, Dr. Joseph LeDoux

This is a replay episode of our discussion with amygdala expert, Dr. Joseph LeDoux.

View the official show notes for this episode here

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups, and unique surprises!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

 

Please consider giving to Mental Health Liberation

 

Mental Health Liberation is our charity of choice – please consider giving whatever you can to support mental health access for those traditionally left behind and support training for BIPOC therapists.

For listeners of the show, Dipsea is offering an extended 30-day free trial when you go to DipseaStories.com/TU

 

Go to Zocdoc.com/TU and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then find and book a top-rated doctor today.

 

Get 55% off at Babbel.com/TU

For when talk therapy isn’t enough – how Attachment-Focused EMDR works and when to use it

This week’s replay episode dives into the evolution and science behind Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) with Dr. Laurel Parnell, and the ways it can be used to help navigate trauma outside of traditional talk therapy.

Click here to view this episode’s original show notes 

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups, and unique surprises!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

 

Please consider giving to Mental Health Liberation

 

Mental Health Liberation is our charity of choice – please consider giving whatever you can to support mental health access for those traditionally left behind and support training for BIPOC therapists.

For listeners of the show, Dipsea is offering an extended 30-day free trial when you go to DipseaStories.com/TU

 

Listeners can enjoy 15% off their first one-month supply of NOBS 

The intersection of poverty and mental illness – intergenerational patterns that impact one another.

A year ago we connected with Dr. Sharon Lambert to take a deep dive into understanding our society and systems, and the ways that they can perpetuate harm to those who are struggling. This replay episode covers poverty, attachment, stress & research on mental health podcasts with co-host Sue Marriott and Dr. Sharon Lambert.

“You can’t pull yourself up by your bootstraps if you have no boots.” – Dr. Sharon Lambert

View the original show notes for the episode here!!

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups, and unique surprises!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

 

Please consider giving to Mental Health Liberation

 

Mental Health Liberation is our charity of choice – please consider giving whatever you can to support mental health access for those traditionally left behind and support training for BIPOC therapists.

Sponsors who help make these episodes free and available to all – support them to support us!

Get 15% off with the code TU at oneskin.co

 

Go to Zocdoc.com/TU and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then find and book a top-rated doctor today.

 

Listeners can enjoy 15% off their first one-month supply of NOBS 

Weave together psycho-pharmacology, trauma, neuroscience, attachment, and internal family systems on this refresher episode with Dr. Frank Anderson and co-host Sue Marriott.

Resources for IFS – Ep 214 

Frank Anderson’s Website

IFS Group Consultation Course – Training Opportunities

Webinars on Various Topics – Training Opportunities

The Arc of Healing Trauma – Frank Anderson’s Online Course

“Internal Family Systems: Skills Training Manual” – Skills Traning Manual

Frank Anderson’s Most Recent Book

Check out our original show notes for this IFS episode, here!

Please consider giving to Mental Health Liberation

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups, and unique surprises!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

Mental Health Liberation is our charity of choice – please consider giving whatever you can to support mental health access for those traditionally left behind and support training for BIPOC therapists.

 

 

Listeners can enjoy 15% off their first one-month supply of NOBS 

 

For listeners of the show, Dipsea is offering an extended 30-day free trial when you go to DipseaStories.com/TU

 

Get 55% off at Babbel.com/TU!  

 

 AG1 is Ann and Sue’s go-to once-a-day drink that delivers all the basics of important vitamins, minerals, and probiotics. Go to www.athleticgreens.com/therapistuncensored or CLICK HERE.

Let’s start micro-dosing mindfulness – it takes less than 1 minute a day

The idea of adding 30 minutes of extra meditation to our already busy schedules can feel overwhelming – but Jake Eagle has dedicated years to his research and found the mindfulness loophole. Awe is an incredibly powerful tool that can over time help us rewire our brains and build security within. Eagle is here to prove that awe is not only meant to be found in grand moments like standing at the top of a mountain or hearing your favorite musician live – but in the tiny fragments of our everyday life. Awe is accessible to us each day, and in this episode, Dr. Ann Kelley and Jake Eagle explore strategies like the “A Method” to incorporate mindfulness into our daily routines. These methods can help to ease the tension of the autopilot mode in our brains, reduce inflammation throughout the body, and equip us with the tools to have deeper, more meaningful connections.

“Awe is the most important transformative experience of life. Awe is a lightning bolt that marks inmemory those moments when the doors of perception are cleansed, & we see with startling clarity what is truly important in life.” – David Elkins

Time Stamps for Awe

1:03 – Introducing the practice of “micro-dosing mindfulness”

4:09 – How Jake Eagle started his research journey with awe

5:21 – Eagle’s, Amster’s & Keltner’s UC Berkeley study on awe

8:24 – Explanation of Eagle’s book

10:40 – How awe affects the body 

15:56 – The “A” method and how to quiet the default mode in our brains

19:01 – Guided three-step A method with Jake 

27:19 – Implementable practices for achieving awe in everyday life

28:47 – Utilizing awe as a practicing therapist 

31:27 – Using awe to shift out of our defense physiology 

33:27 – Jake Eagle’s analysis – the three levels of consciousness in awe

43:53 – Awe makes our worlds grander and ourselves smaller

47:00 – Eagle’s five patterns of strife

51:14 – Science behind inflammation and awe 

Resources for today’s episode, Awe 

Live Conscious – Jake & Hannah Eagle’s website & retreat information

Hearthmath Institute – Tools, training & other resources for heart consciousness

How to Change Your Mind by Michael Poland – Book referenced by Eagle about psychedelics

Positive affect and markers of inflammation: discrete positive emotions predict lower levels of inflammatory cytokines  – Journal reference by Eagle about positive thinking and inflammation

The Power of Awe – Official website for book and information

info@thepowerofawe.com – Email to connect with Jake Eagle

Click here to purchase!!

About our Guest – Jake Eagle, LPC & Author 

Jake Eagle is a psychotherapist, mindfulness instructor, and a fellow member trainer of the International Association of Neuro-Linguistic Programming. As the co-founder of Live Conscious, alongside his wife Hannah, Jake has a small number of private coaching clients. As a licensed mental health counselor for the past 27 years, now practicing as a meta-therapist, Jake recognizes the value of therapy and he also recognizes its limitations. His goal at Live Conscious has been to mentor people in what is possible beyond therapy. Jake is the author of Live a Conscious Life and The Power of Awe. 

 

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups and who knows what else may come!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

Click here to view today’s episode Transcripts 


Please consider giving to Mental Health Liberation

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups, and unique surprises!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

Mental Health Liberation is our charity of choice – please consider giving whatever you can to support mental health access for those traditionally left behind and support training for BIPOC therapists.

Support the show by supporting our partners and the sponsors of today’s episode! 

 AG1 is Ann and Sue’s go-to once-a-day drink that delivers all the basics of important vitamins, minerals, and probiotics. Go to www.athleticgreens.com/therapistuncensored or CLICK HERE.

 

Get 15% off with the code TU at oneskin.co

 

Listeners can enjoy 15% off their first one-month supply of NOBS 

Conflict in relationships is inevitable – but the power in the repair is essential

We are back with relationship expert, Dr. Stan Tatkin to discuss his new book and explore the inner workings of relationships from a biological and societal perspective. All humans are complicated creatures, and that can cause strain in relationships – but how we recover and rebuild matters most. Sue Marriott & Dr. Tatkin take a deep dive into addressing conflicts, building secure attachments, and abandoning gender stereotypes for a more inclusive discussion. Follow along to explore healthy interdependence, couples’ purpose, and secure functioning.

“A secure functioning partnership works on problems, not each other” – Dr. Stan Tatkin

Time Stamps for In Eachother’s Care

5:44 – Dr. Tatkin’s view on telehealth & virtual therapy

8:36 – How PACT approaches virtual therapy

16:05 – Understanding procedural memory 

19:08 – Break down of insecure attachment 

22:53 – What does secure functioning look like?

28:48 – Attachment in polyamorous relationships 

37:47 – Exploring healthy interdependence in relationships

44:50 – An example of a couple’s purpose

53:41 – The importance of gender inclusivity when talking about relationships

Resources for today’s episode 

Stan Tatkin’s Website – Information about his practice, sessions

The PACT Institute – Dr. Tatkin’s official website

Relationships are Hard, but Why? – Dr. Tatkin’s TedTalk

A free excerpt – from Dr. Tatkin’s new book

@DrStanTatkin – Instagram account

Dr. Stan Tatkin – Facebook Page

@DrStanTatkin – Twitter account

Dr. Stan Tatkin – LinkedIn account

Dr. Tatkin’s newest book, click to purchase!!

About our Guest – Stan Tatkin, PsyD, MFT

Clinician, author, researcher, PACT developer, and co-founder of the PACT Institute.
Dr. Tatkin is an assistant clinical professor at UCLA, David Geffen School of Medicine.
He maintains a private practice in Southern California and leads PACT programs in
the US and internationally. He is the author of We Do, Wired for Love, Your Brain on Love,
Relationship Rx, Wired for Dating, What Every Therapist Ought to Know, and co-author
of Love and War in Intimate Relationships, and the upcoming, In Each Other’s Care.

 

Other Relevant Episodes 

https://therapistuncensored.com/episodes/tu121-the-purpose-of-relationships-redefined-during-quarantine-with-stan-tatkin/

https://therapistuncensored.com/episodes/tu12-if-its-not-good-for-you-its-not-good-for-us-interview-with-relationship-expert-stan-tatkin/

 

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups and who knows what else may come!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

Click here to view today’s episode Transcripts 

Please consider giving to Mental Health Liberation

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups, and unique surprises!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

Mental Health Liberation is our charity of choice – please consider giving whatever you can to support mental health access for those traditionally left behind and support training for BIPOC therapists.


Support the show by supporting our partners and the sponsors of today’s episode! 

 AG1 is Ann and Sue’s go-to once-a-day drink that delivers all the basics of important vitamins, minerals, and probiotics. Go to www.athleticgreens.com/therapistuncensored or CLICK HERE.

 

Bonus Episode –

Barbie isn’t anti-man – it’s anti-patriarchy

“If you are a guy who doesn’t like the Barbie movie, it means you probably don’t like patriarchy.” Liz Plank

The Barbie movie has sparked great controversy. While some claim it to be “anti-man” others view it as a strategic call out to the challenges both men and women face on a regular basis. We’ve learned to view the world through a patriarchal lens, so when it’s flipped only then can we see how those in power mistreat those who aren’t. This is pro-anyone wanting secure relating and mutuality – all genders welcome!

Ann and Sue are joined by Liz Plank to dive into the symbolism of the Barbie movie and how it applies to real life and secure relating. Listen now to explore patriarchy, masculinity, and the hierarchies of our society – and important steps we can take to build security through vulnerability for a more inclusive world.

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Bonus Episode –

Barbie isn’t anti-man – it’s anti-patriarchy

“If you are a guy who doesn’t like the Barbie movie, it means you probably don’t like patriarchy.” Liz Plank

The Barbie movie has sparked great controversy. While some claim it to be “anti-man” others view it as a strategic call out to the challenges both men and women face on a regular basis. We’ve learned to view the world through a patriarchal lens, so when it’s flipped only then can we see how those in power mistreat those who aren’t.  This is pro-anyone wanting secure relating and mutuality – all genders welcome!

Ann and Sue are joined by Liz Plank to dive into the symbolism of the Barbie movie and how it applies to real life and secure relating. Listen now to explore patriarchy, masculinity, and the hierarchies of our society – and important steps we can take to build security through vulnerability for a more inclusive world.

“Pro-patriarchy hurts everyone where feminism liberates everyone.” – Liz Plank

Patriarchy reversed – Secure relating and Barbie

Time Stamps for Barbie Movie 

5:30 – Finding security comes through vulnerability 

10:12 – Looking at the different layers of feminism in the movie 

14:29 – Understanding matriarchy

20:22 – Symbols of vulnerability 

25:16 – Break down of Ken’s characters’ correlation between dominance and lack of happiness 

26:51 – Men and understanding their idealized masculinity 

33:54 – Why the “all men are bad” narrative can be destructive to feminism

37:04 – Break down of America Ferrera’s speech 

39:01 – Reimagining masculinity for growth 

46:51 – Who is Barbie?

51:18 – Correlation between power and mirror neuron system disengagement

57:51 – Do men and women feel security in the same ways?

1:03:59 – Toxic invulnerability instead of toxic masculinity

1:08:22 – Looking beyond the gender binary for repair 

1:10:52 – Reframing to understanding inclusive hierarchies & masculinity are not all bad 

About our Guest – Liz Plank 

Liz is an award-winning journalist, international bestselling author and has been the executive producer and host of several critically acclaimed digital series at Vox Media and NBC News. She is the CEO of Liz Plank Productions and is a columnist for MSNBC and has been listed as one of Forbes’ 30 Under 30, Mediaite’s Most Influential in News Media, and Marie Claire’s Most Powerful Women, and was named one of the World’s Most Influential People in Gender Policy by Apolitical. Liz regularly appears on national and international television programs to provide a perspective on politics, gender issues, and reproductive rights, including The Today Show, The Daily Show, MSNBC, CNN, ABC News, Fusion, Al-Jazeera America, and BBC World. Through her activism and creative approach to journalism, Liz has made it her mission to elevate the voices of those who are often not heard. Before becoming a journalist, Liz worked at a community center for people with disabilities and was a researcher and behavioral science consultant at the London School of Economics, from which she holds a master’s degree in policy with an emphasis on global gender politics.

Resources for today’s episode on the Barbie movie 

Loneliness and Social Isolation Linked to Serious Health Conditions – CDC study on isolation

“Man Enough – Dating, Consent, Boundaries & Respect” – podcast with Jamey Heath & Justin Baldoni

Barbie Movie – Info, description, cast & characters

Don’t Think of an Elephant!: Know Your Values & Frame the Debate by George Lakoff – Book referenced by Liz Plank

Armchair Expert Podcast: Synced – New podcast with Monica Padman

Airplane Mode –  Liz Plank’s Substack

@feministafabulous – Liz Plank’s Instagram

@lizplank Liz Plank’s Tiktok

Facebook – Liz Plank’s Facebook page

For the Love of Men: From Toxic to a More Mindful Masculinity – Liz Plank’s Book

Elizabeth Planks’ Website – Resources, bios, and important links

https://therapistuncensored.com/episodes/tu119-for-the-love-of-men-rethinking-masculinity-with-liz-plank/

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups and who knows what else may come!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

Click here to view today’s episode on 

Please consider giving to Mental Health Liberation

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups, and unique surprises!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

Mental Health Liberation is our charity of choice – please consider giving whatever you can to support mental health access for those traditionally left behind and support training for BIPOC therapists.

Support the show by supporting our partners and the sponsors of today’s episode! 

 AG1 is Ann and Sue’s go-to once-a-day drink that delivers all the basics of important vitamins, minerals, and probiotics. Go to www.athleticgreens.com/therapistuncensored or CLICK HERE.

 

Go to Zocdoc.com/TU and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then find and book a top-rated doctor today.

 

For listeners of the show, Dipsea is offering an extended 30-day free trial when you go to DipseaStories.com/TU

 

Fireside Digital – MUD\WTRGo to MUDWTR.com/TU to support the show and use code TU for 15% off

Bonus Episode –

Barbie isn’t anti-man – it’s anti-patriarchy

“If you are a guy who doesn’t like the Barbie movie, it means you probably don’t like patriarchy.” Liz Plank

The Barbie movie has sparked great controversy. While some claim it to be “anti-man” others view it as a strategic call out to the challenges both men and women face on a regular basis. We’ve learned to view the world through a patriarchal lens, so when it’s flipped only then can we see how those in power mistreat those who aren’t.  This is pro-anyone wanting secure relating and mutuality – all genders welcome!

Ann and Sue are joined by Liz Plank to dive into the symbolism of the Barbie movie and how it applies to real life and secure relating. Listen now to explore patriarchy, masculinity, and the hierarchies of our society – and important steps we can take to build security through vulnerability for a more inclusive world.

“Pro-patriarchy hurts everyone where feminism liberates everyone.” – Liz Plank

Patriarchy reversed – Secure relating and Barbie

Time Stamps for Barbie Movie 

5:30 – Finding security comes through vulnerability 

10:12 – Looking at the different layers of feminism in the movie 

14:29 – Understanding matriarchy

20:22 – Symbols of vulnerability 

25:16 – Break down of Ken’s characters’ correlation between dominance and lack of happiness 

26:51 – Men and understanding their idealized masculinity 

33:54 – Why the “all men are bad” narrative can be destructive to feminism

37:04 – Break down of America Ferrera’s speech 

39:01 – Reimagining masculinity for growth 

46:51 – Who is Barbie?

51:18 – Correlation between power and mirror neuron system disengagement

57:51 – Do men and women feel security in the same ways?

1:03:59 – Toxic invulnerability instead of toxic masculinity

1:08:22 – Looking beyond the gender binary for repair 

1:10:52 – Reframing to understanding inclusive hierarchies & masculinity are not all bad 

About our Guest – Liz Plank 

Liz is an award-winning journalist, international bestselling author and has been the executive producer and host of several critically acclaimed digital series at Vox Media and NBC News. She is the CEO of Liz Plank Productions and is a columnist for MSNBC and has been listed as one of Forbes’ 30 Under 30, Mediaite’s Most Influential in News Media, and Marie Claire’s Most Powerful Women, and was named one of the World’s Most Influential People in Gender Policy by Apolitical. Liz regularly appears on national and international television programs to provide a perspective on politics, gender issues, and reproductive rights, including The Today Show, The Daily Show, MSNBC, CNN, ABC News, Fusion, Al-Jazeera America, and BBC World. Through her activism and creative approach to journalism, Liz has made it her mission to elevate the voices of those who are often not heard. Before becoming a journalist, Liz worked at a community center for people with disabilities and was a researcher and behavioral science consultant at the London School of Economics, from which she holds a master’s degree in policy with an emphasis on global gender politics.

Resources for today’s episode on the Barbie movie 

Loneliness and Social Isolation Linked to Serious Health Conditions – CDC study on isolation

“Man Enough – Dating, Consent, Boundaries & Respect” – podcast with Jamey Heath & Justin Baldoni

Barbie Movie – Info, description, cast & characters

Don’t Think of an Elephant!: Know Your Values & Frame the Debate by George Lakoff – Book referenced by Liz Plank

Armchair Expert Podcast: Synced – New podcast with Monica Padman

Airplane Mode –  Liz Plank’s Substack

@feministafabulous – Liz Plank’s Instagram

@lizplank Liz Plank’s Tiktok

Facebook – Liz Plank’s Facebook page

For the Love of Men: From Toxic to a More Mindful Masculinity – Liz Plank’s Book

Elizabeth Planks’ Website – Resources, bios, and important links

https://therapistuncensored.com/episodes/tu119-for-the-love-of-men-rethinking-masculinity-with-liz-plank/

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups and who knows what else may come!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

Click here to view today’s episode on 

Please consider giving to Mental Health Liberation

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups, and unique surprises!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

Mental Health Liberation is our charity of choice – please consider giving whatever you can to support mental health access for those traditionally left behind and support training for BIPOC therapists.

Support the show by supporting our partners and the sponsors of today’s episode! 

 AG1 is Ann and Sue’s go-to once-a-day drink that delivers all the basics of important vitamins, minerals, and probiotics. Go to www.athleticgreens.com/therapistuncensored or CLICK HERE.

 

Go to Zocdoc.com/TU and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then find and book a top-rated doctor today.

 

For listeners of the show, Dipsea is offering an extended 30-day free trial when you go to DipseaStories.com/TU

 

Fireside Digital – MUD\WTRGo to MUDWTR.com/TU to support the show and use code TU for 15% off

Explore attachment trauma with attachment assessment expert Dr. Carol George!

We have the privilege of speaking again with Dr. Carol George, a pioneer in developing attachment assessments for children and adults. Based on her decades of experience identifying patterns she has a lot to teach us about what attachment disruptions really look like in real life and in therapy.

This episode also explores concepts from her new book: Working with Attachment Trauma Clinical Application of the Adult Attachment Projective Picture System. Sue Marriott and Dr. George discuss ideas such as failed mourning, preoccupation with personal suffering and the current perspectives on what used to be called disorganized attachment.

She co-authored the Adult Attachment Interview with Mary Main and created the Adult Attachment Projective Picture System, which is Sue’s go-to assessment for those looking to learn more about their implicit unconscious relational beliefs. With her decades of research, Dr. George offers unique and time-tested insights into applying the science of attachment and trauma.

pathological mourning

“We’re never trying to change anybody. We’re trying to capitalize on defensive strengths to create integration & to help people move towards the path to security.” – Dr. Carol George 

Time Stamps for Working with Attachment Trauma & Pathological Mourning

00:00:56 –  Carol’s motivation for her new book 

7:17 – A brief recap of the AAP

10:02 – What makes the AAP unique compared to other tests

12:31 – How to access your own AAP 

20:17 – How do you talk to your clients about the results of their assessment?

23:52 – Understanding pathological mourning 

25:25 – Introducing the terms failed protection and attachment trauma

30:05 – The relationship between failed mourning and dismissive attachment 

31:24 – Exploring preoccupation with personal suffering

40:59 – Why does Dr. George not prefer the term “disorganized”

50:39 – “Anger is part of our biology” – Dr. George

55:28 – Techniques to help integrate past and present

1:12:51 – Discussing the Cowans family systems study 

Resources for today’s episode Attachment Trauma & Pathological Mourning

AAPInfo@Comcast.net – Contact information if you’re interested in AAP

Adult Attachment Publications – List of credible publications and learning materials

Attachment Projective – Official website with training opportunities and resources

Changing Families: A Preventive Intervention Perspective – Study by Carolyn & Phillip A. Cowan

Attachment in Psychotherapy – Book by David J. Wallin, how attachment patterns feed into clinical work

Ideal Parent Figure Protocol – Guided imagery created by David Elliott and Daniel Brown

Click here to check out Dr. George’s newest book!!

Other Relevant Therapist Uncensored Episodes

https://therapistuncensored.com/episodes/using-the-adult-attachment-projective-aap-assessment-with-carol-george/

https://therapistuncensored.com/episodes/attachment-assessment-unpacked-163/

About our Guest – Dr. Carol George 

Carol George, Ph.D., is Professor Emerita of Psychology at Mills College in Oakland, California, and has been a pioneer in developing attachment assessments for children and adults. George is an internationally renowned attachment expert who was a co-director of the Mills College Infant Mental Health program for 21 years. Working alongside Dr. Main and Dr. Kaplan, her dissertation helped develop the Adult Attachment Interview. She is praised for her work as an author and editor, and is known for her contributions to attachment-based representative assessments like the Caregiving Interview, the Attachment Doll Play Projective Assessment, and “Disorganized Attachment and Caregiving,” alongside Judith Soloman. Her other contributions include “The Adult Attachment Projective Picture System” with Malcolm West. Although retired from being a professor, George is still incredibly active and stays busy being an assistant editor on the editorial board of Attachment and Human Development, as well as the Director of the AAP Training Consortium. Her dedication to education is still prevalent as she often hosts extensive clinical consultations with practicing therapists, graduate students, and other students of attachment.

Join the Reading Pod!

Want to take a deeper dive into this material? Join our upcoming reading pod where members read to engage in weekly virtual discussions with like-minded peers. Email Info@TherapistUncensored.com for more information and to be added to the official list.

Click here to view today’s episode Working with Attachment Trauma

Please consider giving to Mental Health Liberation

We support mental health access to those traditionally left out of mainstream healthcare and use a portion of the income we receive from corporate sponsors to do just that!  We can only do that with the help of our Patrons – joining as a TU Neuronerd Podsquad premium subscriber, you support this mission and get a dedicated ad-free feed plus occasional very cool and unique study opportunities, reading groups, and unique surprises!  We invite you to join our community. Click here to join! 

Mental Health Liberation is our charity of choice – please consider giving whatever you can to support mental health access for those traditionally left behind and support training for BIPOC therapists.


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