How Vercel thinks about Next.js

Vercel CPO, Tom Occhino, joins Jerod for a one-on-one covering React & Next’s past, present & future. We discuss the birth of React, Tom’s move to Vercel, deploying Next apps to non-Vercel hosts, React as the next jQuery, the viability of Web Components, Vercel customers getting surprise bills & so much more.</p> <a href="https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456196-jsparty">Join the discussion</a></p><a href="https://changelog.com/++" rel="payment">Changelog++</a> members save 9 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!</p>Sponsors:</p><ul><li><a href="https://fly.io/">Fly.io</a> – <strong>The home of Changelog.com</strong> — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. <a href="https://fly.io/speedrun/">Check out the speedrun</a> to get started in minutes. </li> <li><a href="https://workos.com">WorkOS</a> – <strong>A platform that gives developers a set of building blocks for quickly adding enterprise-ready features</strong> to their application. Add Single Sign-On (Okta, Azure, Google, Microsoft OAuth), sync users from any SCIM directory, HRIS integration, audit trails (SIEM), free magic link sign-in. WorkOS is designed for developers and offers a single, elegant interface that abstracts dozens of enterprise integrations. Learn more and get started at <a href="https://workos.com/">WorkOS.com</a> </li> <li><a href="http://notion.com/changelog">Notion</a> – Notion is a place where any team can write, plan, organize, and rediscover the joy of play. It’s a workspace designed not just for making progress, but getting inspired. Notion is for everyone — whether you’re a Fortune 500 company or freelance designer, starting a new startup or a student juggling classes and clubs. </li> </ul></p>Featuring:</p><ul><li>Tom Occhino – <a href="https://twitter.com/tomocchino" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomocchino" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://www.tomocchino.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Jerod Santo – <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li></ul></p>Show Notes:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pDqJVdNa44">React.js: The Documentary - YouTube</a></li> <li><a href="https://changelog.com/podcast/149">React, React Native, Flux, Relay, GraphQL (Changelog Interviews #149)</a></li> <li><a href="https://nextjs.org/conf">Next.js Conf by Vercel</a></li> <li><a href="https://v0.dev/">v0 by Vercel</a></li> </ul> </p>Something missing or broken? <a href="https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/jsparty/js-party-345.md">PRs welcome!</a></p>

01:11:47

Kind of a big deal

Jerod & the gang play “Twenty” Questions to get to know Amy, review the big Svelte 5 release, discuss commercial open source & get Nick’s report from SquiggleConf!</p> <a href="https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456196-jsparty">Join the discussion</a></p><a href="https://changelog.com/++" rel="payment">Changelog++</a> members save 9 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!</p>Sponsors:</p><ul><li><a href="https://fly.io/">Fly.io</a> – <strong>The home of Changelog.com</strong> — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. <a href="https://fly.io/speedrun/">Check out the speedrun</a> to get started in minutes. </li> <li><a href="https://jam.dev">Jam.dev</a> – <strong>One click bug reports developers love</strong> — Never explain another bug report again. Jam auto-captures all the info engineers need to debug and repro. </li> <li><a href="https://workos.com">WorkOS</a> – <strong>A platform that gives developers a set of building blocks for quickly adding enterprise-ready features</strong> to their application. Add Single Sign-On (Okta, Azure, Google, Microsoft OAuth), sync users from any SCIM directory, HRIS integration, audit trails (SIEM), free magic link sign-in. WorkOS is designed for developers and offers a single, elegant interface that abstracts dozens of enterprise integrations. Learn more and get started at <a href="https://workos.com/">WorkOS.com</a> </li> </ul></p>Featuring:</p><ul><li>Jerod Santo – <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Kevin Ball – <a href="https://twitter.com/kbal11" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/kball" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kbal11" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://www.kball.llc" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Nick Nisi – <a href="https://nicknisi.com/@nicknisi" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://nicknisi.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Amy Dutton – <a href="https://twitter.com/selfteachme" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/ahaywood" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a></li></ul></p>Show Notes:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://svelte.dev/blog/svelte-5-is-alive">Svelte 5 is alive</a></li> <li><a href="https://ti.to/gitnation/react-summit-us-edition-2024/discount/JSPARTY10">Join us at React Summit US (10% off)</a></li> <li><a href="https://ti.to/gitnation/jsnation-us-edition/discount/JSPARTY10">Join us at JSNation US (10% off)</a></li> </ul> </p>Something missing or broken? <a href="https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/jsparty/js-party-344.md">PRs welcome!</a></p>

01:00:18

Digging through Jerod Santo’s tool box

KBall interviews Jerod about the tools he uses in development, podcasting & business. We start with text editors & terminal tools, move to podcast recording & editing tools, discuss the open source podcasting platform Jerod built in Elixir, then finish with tools to run a small business & our approaches to genAI. Oh, and you don’t want to miss Jerod’s Big Confession!</p> <a href="https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456196-jsparty">Join the discussion</a></p><a href="https://changelog.com/++" rel="payment">Changelog++</a> members save 5 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!</p>Sponsors:</p><ul><li><a href="https://jam.dev">Jam.dev</a> – <strong>One click bug reports developers love</strong> — Never explain another bug report again. Jam auto-captures all the info engineers need to debug and repro. </li> <li><a href="http://notion.com/changelog">Notion</a> – Notion is a place where any team can write, plan, organize, and rediscover the joy of play. It’s a workspace designed not just for making progress, but getting inspired. Notion is for everyone — whether you’re a Fortune 500 company or freelance designer, starting a new startup or a student juggling classes and clubs. </li> </ul></p>Featuring:</p><ul><li>Kevin Ball – <a href="https://twitter.com/kbal11" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/kball" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kbal11" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://www.kball.llc" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Jerod Santo – <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li></ul></p>Show Notes:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://jsparty.fm/278">Nick’s tool box</a></li> <li><a href="https://zed.dev/">Zed Editor</a></li> <li><a href="https://github.com/tmux/tmux/wiki">tmux</a></li> <li><a href="https://github.com/ivaaaan/smug">Smug</a></li> <li><a href="http://github.com/thechangelog/changelog.com">thechangelog/changelog.com</a></li> <li><a href="https://elixir-lang.org/">Elixir</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.phoenixframework.org/">Phoenix</a></li> <li><a href="https://github.com/atuinsh/atuin">Atuin</a></li> <li><a href="https://riverside.fm">Riverside</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/audition.html">Adobe Audition</a></li> <li><a href="https://transistor.fm/">Transistor</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.getharvest.com/">Harvest</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.freshbooks.com/">Freshbooks</a></li> <li><a href="https://gusto.com/">Gusto</a></li> <li><a href="https://ollama.com/">Ollama</a></li> <li><a href="https://github.com/AugustDev/enchanted">Enchanted</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.cursor.com/">Cursor</a></li> </ul> </p>Something missing or broken? <a href="https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/jsparty/js-party-343.md">PRs welcome!</a></p>

00:59:02

A great horse to bet on

Jerod & KBall discuss a trio of goings on in/around the web dev world: Evan You’s new startup, Matt Mullenweg’s WordPress mess & Ryan Carniato’s WebComponents debate.</p> <a href="https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456196-jsparty">Join the discussion</a></p><a href="https://changelog.com/++" rel="payment">Changelog++</a> members save 7 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!</p>Sponsors:</p><ul><li><a href="https://fly.io/">Fly.io</a> – <strong>The home of Changelog.com</strong> — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. <a href="https://fly.io/speedrun/">Check out the speedrun</a> to get started in minutes. </li> <li><a href="https://workos.com">WorkOS</a> – <strong>A platform that gives developers a set of building blocks for quickly adding enterprise-ready features</strong> to their application. Add Single Sign-On (Okta, Azure, Google, Microsoft OAuth), sync users from any SCIM directory, HRIS integration, audit trails (SIEM), free magic link sign-in. WorkOS is designed for developers and offers a single, elegant interface that abstracts dozens of enterprise integrations. Learn more and get started at <a href="https://workos.com/">WorkOS.com</a> </li> </ul></p>Featuring:</p><ul><li>Jerod Santo – <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Kevin Ball – <a href="https://twitter.com/kbal11" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/kball" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kbal11" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://www.kball.llc" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li></ul></p>Show Notes:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://ti.to/gitnation/react-summit-us-edition-2024/discount/JSPARTY10">Join us at React Summit US (10% off)</a></li> <li><a href="https://ti.to/gitnation/jsnation-us-edition/discount/JSPARTY10">Join us at JSNation US (10% off)</a></li> <li><a href="https://x.com/youyuxi/status/1841100770537849179">Evan You announces VoidZero</a></li> <li><a href="https://ma.tt/2024/10/alignment/">Automattic Alignment</a></li> <li><a href="https://dev.to/ryansolid/web-components-are-not-the-future-48bh">Web Components Are Not the Future</a></li> </ul> </p>Something missing or broken? <a href="https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/jsparty/js-party-342.md">PRs welcome!</a></p>

01:01:30

Create interactive tutorials the easy way

Tomek Sułkowski from TutorialKit joins Jerod to tell him all about the open source toolkit for creating awesome, interactive tutorials without having to code up the hard parts.</p> <a href="https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456196-jsparty">Join the discussion</a></p><a href="https://changelog.com/++" rel="payment">Changelog++</a> members save 10 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!</p>Sponsors:</p><ul><li><a href="https://fly.io/">Fly.io</a> – <strong>The home of Changelog.com</strong> — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. <a href="https://fly.io/speedrun/">Check out the speedrun</a> to get started in minutes. </li> <li><a href="https://workos.com">WorkOS</a> – <strong>A platform that gives developers a set of building blocks for quickly adding enterprise-ready features</strong> to their application. Add Single Sign-On (Okta, Azure, Google, Microsoft OAuth), sync users from any SCIM directory, HRIS integration, audit trails (SIEM), free magic link sign-in. WorkOS is designed for developers and offers a single, elegant interface that abstracts dozens of enterprise integrations. Learn more and get started at <a href="https://workos.com/">WorkOS.com</a> </li> <li><a href="http://notion.com/changelog">Notion</a> – Notion is a place where any team can write, plan, organize, and rediscover the joy of play. It’s a workspace designed not just for making progress, but getting inspired. Notion is for everyone — whether you’re a Fortune 500 company or freelance designer, starting a new startup or a student juggling classes and clubs. </li> </ul></p>Featuring:</p><ul><li>Tomek Sułkowski – <a href="https://twitter.com/sulco" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/sulco" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a></li><li>Jerod Santo – <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li></ul></p>Show Notes:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://jsparty.fm/178">Running Node natively in the browser with Eric Simons from StackBlitz</a></li> <li><a href="https://tutorialkit.dev/">TutorialKit</a></li> <li><a href="https://github.com/stackblitz/tutorialkit">TutorialKit on GitHub</a></li> </ul> <h4>TutorialKit in the wild</h4> <ul> <li><a href="https://tutorial-vite-plugin.pages.dev/">Welcome to the Vite Plugin API tutorial</a></li> <li><a href="https://learn.remult.dev/">Welcome to the Remult tutorial</a></li> <li><a href="https://nextpatterns.dev/">Welcome to Next Patterns</a></li> </ul> </p>Something missing or broken? <a href="https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/jsparty/js-party-341.md">PRs welcome!</a></p>

00:51:20

Leveling up JavaScript with Deno 2

Jerod is joined by Ryan Dahl to discuss his second take on leveling up JavaScript developers all around the world. Jerod asks Ryan why not try to fix or fork Node instead of starting fresh, how Deno (the open source project) can avoid the all too common rug pull (not cool) scenario, what’s new in Deno 2 & their pragmatic decision to support npm, they talk JSR, they talk Deno KV & SQLite, they even talk about Ryan’s open letter to Oracle in an attempt to free the unused “JavaScript” trademark from the giant’s clutches.</p> <a href="https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456196-jsparty">Join the discussion</a></p><a href="https://changelog.com/++" rel="payment">Changelog++</a> members save 3 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!</p>Sponsors:</p><ul><li><a href="https://jam.dev">Jam.dev</a> – <strong>One click bug reports developers love</strong> — Never explain another bug report again. Jam auto-captures all the info engineers need to debug and repro. </li> </ul></p>Featuring:</p><ul><li>Ryan Dahl – <a href="https://twitter.com/rough__sea" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/ry" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://deno.land" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Jerod Santo – <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li></ul></p>Show Notes:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB8KwiiUGy0">Node.js: The Documentary - YouTube</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxitJn9MwYs">From Node.js to Deno: How It All Began - YouTube</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3BM9TB-8yA">10 Things I Regret About Node.js - YouTube</a></li> <li><a href="https://jsr.io/">JSR: the JavaScript Registry</a></li> <li><a href="https://github.com/denoland/rusty_v8">rusty_v8: Rust bindings for the V8 JavaScript engine</a></li> <li><a href="https://javascript.tm/">JavaScript™ (Dear Oracle)</a></li> </ul> </p>Something missing or broken? <a href="https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/jsparty/js-party-340.md">PRs welcome!</a></p>

01:06:16

It's all about the squiggles

Nick is joined by Josh Goldberg & Dimitri Mitropoulos to discuss SquiggleConf, a new conference focused on web dev tooling. We explore the motivations behind creating a conference dedicated to developer tools, the challenges of organizing both conferences and local meetups, and strategies for building engaged tech communities.</p> We also discuss the importance of developer tooling, the pandemic’s impact on tech events, and share insights on encouraging new speakers and creating inclusive environments & more!</p> <a href="https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456196-jsparty">Join the discussion</a></p><a href="https://changelog.com/++" rel="payment">Changelog++</a> members save 7 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!</p>Sponsors:</p><ul><li><a href="https://fly.io/">Fly.io</a> – <strong>The home of Changelog.com</strong> — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. <a href="https://fly.io/speedrun/">Check out the speedrun</a> to get started in minutes. </li> <li><a href="https://www.wix.com/studio">Wix</a> – <strong>Wix Sudio is for devs</strong> who build websites, sell apps, go headless, or manage clients. Integrate, extend and write custom scripts in a VS code-based IDE. Leverage zero set up dev, test and production environments. Ship faster with an AI code assistant. And work with Wix headless API’s on any tech stack. </li> <li><a href="https://jam.dev">Jam.dev</a> – <strong>One click bug reports developers love</strong> — Never explain another bug report again. Jam auto-captures all the info engineers need to debug and repro. </li> </ul></p>Featuring:</p><ul><li>Dimitri Mitropoulos – <a href="https://github.com/dimitropoulos" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dimitrimitropoulos" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Josh Goldberg – <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshuaKGoldberg" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/joshuakgoldberg" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a></li><li>Nick Nisi – <a href="https://nicknisi.com/@nicknisi" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://nicknisi.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li></ul></p>Show Notes:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://2024.squiggleconf.com">SquiggleConf</a></li> <li><a href="https://eslint.org">ESLint</a></li> <li><a href="https://typescript-eslint.io">TypeScript ESLint</a></li> <li><a href="https://mochajs.org">Mocha</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.learningtypescript.com">Learning TypeScript book</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MichiganTypeScript">Michigan TypeScript</a></li> <li><a href="https://bostonts.club">Boston TS Club</a></li> <li><a href="https://nebraskajs.com">NebraskaJS</a></li> <li><a href="https://ohmyz.sh">Oh My Zsh (tool by Robbie Russell)</a></li> <li><a href="https://react.dev">React</a></li> <li><a href="https://vuejs.org">Vue</a></li> <li><a href="https://go.dev">Go programming language</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.typescriptlang.org">TypeScript</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.neaq.org">New England Aquarium conference venue</a></li> <li><a href="discord.squiggleconf.com">Squiggle Conf Discord</a></li> </ul> </p>Something missing or broken? <a href="https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/jsparty/js-party-339.md">PRs welcome!</a></p>

01:12:10

Undirected hyper arrows

Chris Shank has been on sabbatical since January, so he’s had a lot of time to think deeply about the web platform. On this episode, Jerod & KBall pick Chris’ brain to answer questions like, what does a post-component paradigm look like? What would it look like if the browser had primitives for building spatial canvases? How can we make it easier to make “folk interfaces” on the web?</p> <a href="https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456196-jsparty">Join the discussion</a></p><a href="https://changelog.com/++" rel="payment">Changelog++</a> members save 4 minutes on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!</p>Sponsors:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.wix.com/studio">Wix</a> – <strong>Wix Sudio is for devs</strong> who build websites, sell apps, go headless, or manage clients. Integrate, extend and write custom scripts in a VS code-based IDE. Leverage zero set up dev, test and production environments. Ship faster with an AI code assistant. And work with Wix headless API’s on any tech stack. </li> <li><a href="https://fly.io/">Fly.io</a> – <strong>The home of Changelog.com</strong> — Deploy your apps close to your users — global Anycast load-balancing, zero-configuration private networking, hardware isolation, and instant WireGuard VPN connections. Push-button deployments that scale to thousands of instances. <a href="https://fly.io/speedrun/">Check out the speedrun</a> to get started in minutes. </li> </ul></p>Featuring:</p><ul><li>Chris Shank – <a href="https://twitter.com/chrisshank23" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/ChrisShank" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.chrisshank.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Jerod Santo – <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Kevin Ball – <a href="https://twitter.com/kbal11" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/kball" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kbal11" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://www.kball.llc" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li></ul></p>Show Notes:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://github.com/ChrisShank/progressive-element">ChrisShank/progressive-element: A set of patterns for a behavioral paradigm of building web UIs</a></li> <li><a href="https://github.com/Little-Languages/quiver">Little-Languages/quiver: Your quiver of declarative arrows for the web. ⤵</a></li> <li><a href="https://github.com/ChrisShank/folc">ChrisShank/folc: Utilities to more easily make folk web pages</a></li> </ul> </p>Something missing or broken? <a href="https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/jsparty/js-party-338.md">PRs welcome!</a></p>

01:07:38

Don’t ever use these TypeScript features

Jerod, Nick & Chris discuss a next-gen JavaScript bundler, Node getting even tighter with TypeScript, the top programming languages according to IEEE Spectrum, Chris’ feelings on Node’s built-in test runner & more!</p> <a href="https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456196-jsparty">Join the discussion</a></p><a href="https://changelog.com/++" rel="payment">Changelog++</a> members get a bonus 4 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today!</p>Sponsors:</p><ul><li><a href="https://fly.io/changelog">Fly.io</a> – <strong>The home of Changelog.com</strong> — Deploy your apps and databases close to your users. In minutes you can run your Ruby, Go, Node, Deno, Python, or Elixir app (and databases!) all over the world. No ops required. Learn more at <a href="https://fly.io/changelog">fly.io/changelog</a> and check out <a href="https://fly.io/docs/speedrun/">the speedrun in their docs</a>. </li> <li><a href="https://www.wix.com/studio">Wix</a> – <strong>Wix Sudio is for devs</strong> who build websites, sell apps, go headless, or manage clients. Integrate, extend and write custom scripts in a VS code-based IDE. Leverage zero set up dev, test and production environments. Ship faster with an AI code assistant. And work with Wix headless API’s on any tech stack. </li> </ul></p>Featuring:</p><ul><li>Jerod Santo – <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Nick Nisi – <a href="https://nicknisi.com/@nicknisi" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://nicknisi.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Christopher Hiller – <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@boneskull" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/b0neskull" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/boneskull" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://boneskull.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li></ul></p>Show Notes:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://rspack.dev/blog/announcing-1-0">Announcing Rspack 1.0</a></li> <li><a href="https://nodejs.org/en/blog/release/v22.7.0">Node.js — Node v22.7.0 (Current)</a></li> <li><a href="https://spectrum.ieee.org/top-programming-languages-2024">Top Programming Languages 2024</a></li> <li><a href="http://moonscript.org/">MoonScript, a language that compiles to Lua</a></li> <li><a href="https://typescripttolua.github.io/">TypeScriptToLua</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.satisfactorygame.com/">Home - Satisfactory Game</a></li> <li><a href="https://changelog.com/jsparty/52">Nest ’dem loops featuring NESTED LOOPS</a></li> <li><a href="https://changelog.com/podcast/466">Song Encoder: $STDOUT</a></li> <li><a href="https://brucelawson.co.uk/2024/tc39-the-song/">The TC39 song</a></li> </ul> </p>Something missing or broken? <a href="https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/jsparty/js-party-337.md">PRs welcome!</a></p>

00:49:01

When 3rd party JavaScript attacks

Simon Wijckmans from <a href="https://cside.dev">c/side</a> joins Jerod & Nick to discuss the Pollyfill attack in detail. What does it mean for web developers & client-side security going forward?</p> <a href="https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/456196-jsparty">Join the discussion</a></p><a href="https://changelog.com/++" rel="payment">Changelog++</a> members save 1 minute on this episode because they made the ads disappear. Join today!</p>Sponsors:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.wix.com/studio">Wix</a> – <strong>Wix Sudio is for devs</strong> who build websites, sell apps, go headless, or manage clients. Integrate, extend and write custom scripts in a VS code-based IDE. Leverage zero set up dev, test and production environments. Ship faster with an AI code assistant. And work with Wix headless API’s on any tech stack. </li> </ul></p>Featuring:</p><ul><li>Simon Wijckmans – <a href="https://twitter.com/SimonWijckmans" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/swijckmans" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wijckmans" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://www.simonwijckmans.com/" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li><li>Jerod Santo – <a href="https://changelog.social/@jerod" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerodsanto" rel="external ugc">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Nick Nisi – <a href="https://nicknisi.com/@nicknisi" rel="external ugc">Mastodon</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://github.com/nicknisi" rel="external ugc">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://nicknisi.com" rel="external ugc">Website</a></li></ul></p>Show Notes:</p><ul> <li><a href="https://cside.dev/blog/the-polyfill-attack-explained">The Polyfill attack explained</a></li> </ul> </p>Something missing or broken? <a href="https://github.com/thechangelog/show-notes/blob/master/jsparty/js-party-336.md">PRs welcome!</a></p>

00:53:15