Ep 26: An Interview with Jeffrey Kripal: The Flip & How To Think Impossibly

Today, we have a very special guest on the show, Dr. Jeffrey Kripal. Dr. Kripal is an esteemed scholar and author in the study of religion, focusing particularly on the esoteric, mystical, and paranormal dimensions of human experience. He serves as the J. Newton Rayzor Chair in Philosophy and Religious Thought at Rice University. He is the author of several phenomenal books including <i>The Superhumanities</i>, <i>Mutants & Mystics</i>, <i>Super Natural</i> (which he co-authored with Whitley Strieber), and <i>The Flip</i>.<b><br /><br /><a href="https://uforabbithole.com/podcast/ep-26-an-interview-with-jeffrey-kripal-the-flip-how-to-think-impossibly/" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">EPISODE BRIEF</a><br /><br /><a href="https://patreon.com/uforabbithole" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">BECOME A PATRON</a><br /></b>Patrons get lots of great perks like early and ad-free episodes, access to the private The UFO Rabbit Hole Discord server, and twice-monthly Patron Zoom calls with Kelly Chase. Memberships start at just $5/month.<b><br /></b><b><br />GET THE BOOK<br /></b><a href="https://uforabbithole.store" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Get a SIGNED COPY</a><br /><a href="https://a.co/d/8POHboV" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Get it on Amazon</a><b><br /><br />FOLLOW<br /></b><a href="https://uforabbithole.com" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Website</a><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/ufo_rabbit_hole" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Twitter</a><br /><a href="https://facebook.com/uforabbithole" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Facebook</a><br /><br /><b>MUSIC<br /></b>Theme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun Frearson<br /><br />This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/5746035/advertisement">https://www.spreaker.com/show/5746035/advertisement</a>

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Ep 25: James Madden [Pt. 3]: The Cave, Morlocks & The Spectacle of Disclosure

In this episode we welcome back my dear friend and friend of the show, Dr. James Madden. This is the third episode that we’ve done together, and I’m sure that it won’t be the last. My interviews with James Madden have become some of my most downloaded episodes, and so I know you guys love hearing from him. And I love talking to him, so we’re just going to keep doing it. <br /><br />The deeper we dive into the phenomenon, the more necessary it becomes to not just interrogate what we think, but how we think—and to find new frameworks to help us do so. A philosophical approach gives the means to do that. And I’ve been so grateful to Jim for how generous he’s been with his time and his thoughts as we navigate these deeper waters. <br /><br />As you all know, over the past several months Plato’s Cave has become a central touchstone of this podcast. It’s an idea I keep returning to, again and again, because as my own trip down the rabbit hole continues, I continue to find new insights within it. And so today, with Jim as our guide, we’re going to return to the Cave, armed with the new ideas we’ve developed over these past several months, and see what new revelations might reveal themselves.<br /><br />With this episode we’ll also be returning to our discussion of Whitley Strieber’s groundbreaking new book, Them, which we discussed in the last episode. Strieber’s decades of deep research and thinking on the topic of non-human intelligence as well as his own ongoing contact experiences have led him to develop a nuanced, challenging, and at times unsettling, understanding of “the others”—including how they operate at the fringes of our awareness and what they might ultimately be trying to tell us. <b><br /><br /><a href="https://uforabbithole.com/podcast/ep-25-james-madden-pt-3-the-cave-morlocks-the-spectacle-of-disclosure/" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">EPISODE BRIEF</a><br /><br /><a href="https://patreon.com/uforabbithole" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">BECOME A PATRON</a><br /></b><b><br />GET THE BOOK<br /></b><a href="https://uforabbithole.store" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Get a SIGNED COPY</a><br /><a href="https://a.co/d/8POHboV" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Get it on Amazon</a><b><br /><br />FOLLOW<br /></b><a href="https://uforabbithole.com" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Website</a><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/ufo_rabbit_hole" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Twitter</a><br /><a href="https://facebook.com/uforabbithole" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Facebook</a><br /><br /><b>MUSIC<br /></b>Theme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun Frearson<br /><br />This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/5746035/advertisement">https://www.spreaker.com/show/5746035/advertisement</a>

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Ep 24: UFOs & High Strangeness: The 6-Layer Model by Vallée & Davis

Today’s episode is an important one, because it’s going to lay the groundwork for a lot of the things that we’re going to be discussing moving forward. In the weeks and months to come, this is an episode that I’ll likely be referring back to often. <br /><br />And that’s because today we’re diving into an article written by two heavyweights of ufology that serves not only as an essential framework to support our understanding of the complexities and nuances of the UFO phenomenon, but that also—in a very real way—helped to lay the foundation for the recent push for UFO disclosure. In short, it’s not only important that we take the time to really understand the ideas presented in this article—but to understand where it fits into the history of modern ufology. <br /><br />The paper to which I’m referring is Incommensurability, Orthodoxy, and the Physics of High Strangeness: A 6-Layer Model for Anomalous Phenomena written by Jacques Vallée and Eric Davis. Most people will already be very familiar with those names, but just in case they are new to you, you can find links to their bios and other work in the episode brief. <br /><br />What is so significant about this paper is that it seeks to create a framework by which we can begin to analyze and integrate the parts of UFO encounters that rarely make it into sci-fi media, and even more rarely make it into serious discussions about the phenomenon itself—which is the undeniable and pervasive occurrence of events and effects that are traditionally relegated to the realms of high strangeness and the paranormal. <br /><br />If there’s nothing else that you take away from this episode it should be this—encounters with UFOs and non-human intelligence are much, much weirder than you've probably been led to believe. <br /><br /><b><a href="https://uforabbithole.com/podcast/ep-24-ufos-high-strangeness-the-6-layer-model-by-vallee-davis/" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">EPISODE BRIEF</a><br /><br /><a href="https://patreon.com/uforabbithole" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">BECOME A PATRON</a><br /></b><b><br />GET THE BOOK<br /></b><a href="https://uforabbithole.store" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Get a SIGNED COPY</a><br /><a href="https://a.co/d/8POHboV" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Get it on Amazon</a><b><br /><br />FOLLOW<br /></b><a href="https://uforabbithole.com" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Website</a><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/ufo_rabbit_hole" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Twitter</a><br /><a href="https://facebook.com/uforabbithole" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Facebook</a><br /><br /><b>MUSIC<br /></b>Theme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun Frearson<br /><b>Featured Song: <a href="https://on.soundcloud.com/4s8Vy7LqAhEHJQgf7" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Jacques Vallée by _ship</a></b><br /><br /><b>TIMESTAMPS<br /><br /></b>00:00:32 Introduction<br />00:06:53 Problems with the SETI and UAP Paradigms<br />00:07:25 —SETI & The Assumption of Mediocrity<br />00:12:19 —Anthropocentric Bias in SETI<br />00:14:54 —Anthropocentric Bias in Ufology<br />00:16:27 The Need For A Unified Approach To UAP Studies<br />00:20:01 The Six Layers of UAP Analysis<br />00:20:30 —Layer I: Physical<br />00:21:45 —Layer II: Anti-Physical<br />00:23:00 —Layer III: Psychological<br />00:29:53 —Layer IV: Physiological<br />00:32:19 —Layer V: Psychic<br />00:34:19 —Layer VI: Cultural<br />00:37:10 Possible Nature of UAP Technology<br />00:39:48 The Incommensurability Problem<br />00:45:42 Semiotics<br />00:51:35 High Strangeness & The Abduction Problem<br />00:54:12 Conclusions<br />00:56:23 Garry Nolan and Talking To Ants<br />01:00:26 Whitley Strieber and “The Visitors In the Trees”<br />01:12:42 Jacques Vallée by _ship<b><br /><br />MUSIC<br /></b>Theme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun Frearson<br />Featured Song: <a href="https://on.soundcloud.com/4s8Vy7LqAhEHJQgf7" target="_blank"...

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